There are certain people we will encounter in our lives who will just get at our core anger.


I really need help here because I want so badly to make her life miserable and I know that this would only make me look bad.  I feel I have already made a fool of myself and frankly I do not want to think about it anymore.  I just want to forget about this person and go on. 


The story:

Last summer my husband and I were going to our neighborhood tennis courts, while driving there I was eating a lovely freestone peach.  It was extraordinarily yummy, however at the end there is this pit right and as I exited the car I tossed the pit into a pile of leaves at the edge of a fence.  I do not agree with disposing of all biodegradable materials in plastic bags that will fill up land fills.  The pit would be properly cleaned by ants and if we are lucky perhaps a tree will grow.  But no, across the way there was a woman who decided it was her neighborly duty to point out that I was littering.  She yelled "That is not very nice." and I said, "No worries it is only a peach pit."  At which point she said "It doesn't matter you are still littering."   I explained that a peach pit is biodegradable and that she should not worry herself over this, was not her business anyway.  Well she decided to get even more unpleasant and I decided to get in her face and try and explain what biodegradable means and then I suggested she take more walks.  I was not very nice at this time and frankly I am not proud of myself.  She told me she was going to call the police and I asked her what her complaint would be if she did call them.  She then said that she was going to report me for littering.  I then handed her my cell phone and told her to go ahead.  She took the phone and then handed it back to me and stalked off.  Thinking this would be the end of it my husband and I had a hearty conversation about the obvious ignorance of some people and started playing tennis.  


About ten minutes later two patrol cars roll up with four officers and they approached the fence.  The lady never returned to the scene to meet with the police and when they showed up they asked what the problem was and I confessed that I had thrown a peach pit into a pile of leaves.  They looked disgusted and asked where the person who made the call was and I shrugged my shoulders and suggested that she was hiding at home.  They left and we continued with our game.  I was a bit miffed at this point because she was surely abusing 911 for such a silly thing.


Okay so today we show up at the tennis courts and there she is again.  My husband got out of the car and she asked him if he was a resident and my husband then replied yes and then I got out of the car and asked her the same thing and she went off like a bomb and shouted.  "I am the president of the Home Owners Association!"  I said, "Oh yeah, you are that, whats her name?"  I was not being nice here because she is just into making a scene.  I think she enjoys this kind of thing.  Power tripping and all.  Okay so I got in her face and told her a few choice things and she told me she was going to have me banned from the common areas.  I told her that she was welcome to do so, I can handle it.  


Frankly I can't handle it.  She is a confrontational moron and she has a reputation for being a bitch and how she got elected HOA president is beyond me.  Her husband or someone living at her house owns a lawn care business and displays his signs  very prominently in her yard for advertisement which is in violation of the covenant.  I do not really care about this I would normally allow them enough time to hang themselves with their own ropes and that is what I would like to do in this case.  So I need some moral support here please.


I have mentioned this to two other people who live in the neighborhood and they just smile and say..'Oh that is just the way she is."  You can't change her.  Well I don't want to change her I just don't want to be accosted when I go to the tennis courts.  


I do not feel like being nice to this person, I am a generally good person.  I do not work,so I volunteer at the school and the animal shelter and I pretty much keep a low profile and mind my own business.  I hate to be dragged into a petty neighborhood bitch fest but this woman has gotten under my skin. Any advice?


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Tell her that if she approaches you again you will file a TPO/restraining order if your jurisdiction allows and that if she tries to act aggressively again you will run against her next election.
With the order still in place. :)
We have a winner!


can't believe no one else has suggested this, but, maybe you should think about talking to her? Ask to meet for coffee, or take her some cookies. Being petty and self-righteous won't get you very far. Unless either of you moves, you're going to be neighbors for awhile, and should at least come to an understanding. I know full well that some people do not want to reconcile- ever. And it's a damn shame, but if you apologize, because yes, you littered, then maybe you can be amicable towards each other. She shouldn't have attacked you, but maybe she takes her position seriously? Hmm? Good luck!! If all else fails, egg her house!

That option did pass through my pea brain, however I will have to think this through. I had forgotten about the whole thing.
I really do not understand how anyone can say that leaving a peach pit on the ground is littering. Should we then go around picking up all the litter and debris that trees and other such

Well, everything biodegrades. Just at different rates. So, while it's wonderful to fertilize the earth or plant a tree, if everyone throw their pits and peels in common areas, it would become trash. Even before plastics and Styrofoams, people collected trash and took it out of houses, cities and public areas. When things biodegrade they smell. That's why, when composting and such, you have to keep turning the compost and keep out too much moisture.

I think there are two things you should think on:

-Would it have been different it it was a banana peel? Orange peels? Apple core? Coffee grounds? A newspaper? Etc... They all biodegrade.

-If a tree did start growing, would it even get a chance to grow? Maybe it would get mowed over or chopped down.

Oh, and yeah, people obsessively pick up debris from nature. Those leaves you threw the pit into will probably get picked up someday... Especially, if you live in suburbia :)


So, those are just my thoughts. I turn everything into a debate. If you've already moved on from this, feel free to ignore my response... This doesn't seem to be the place to argue about nature, haha...

I don't think that you are a bad person because you may or may not littered, it's ok :)


Also agree.  I would be pro-peach pit littering but you gotta be able to see how it is an undesirable practice to some people.


I toss biodegradable stuff into the woods all the time but if everyone started tossing spare fruit on the ground in our local park, it would be a stanky mess and we'd be over-run by pests. 


Also, if her husband is one of those lawn manicure people, she may embrace a neurotic dedication to the whole 'dominion over nature' ideology.

LOL at people saying this is littering. If I walk by a tree , pick off a leaf and then drop it , is THAT littering too? Lmao.
Wow , either some people don't know what the term litter means , or some Atheists are serious tree huggers up in here!
A peach pit! It's the pit of a peach! Peaches grow on trees! Trees are part of nature!
Well only two people have agreed with the littering charge as far as I can tell.   But it is amazing how much it bugs me that someone would prefer that a biodegradable object should be placed in a plastic bag and sent to a landfill.  That is not being environmentally sound.  Oh point in the whole mess was how confrontational and unpleasant this woman is.

Not to be too picky, but how many peach pits in a rotting pile would it take for it to become offensive.

I live in a rural area, my neighbours goat poop is organic, but pile enuf of it up and presto

it becomes toxic waste.


My pet peeve is the people dropping stuff out of their truck on the way to the dump. I do realize a peach pit would be inoffensive, and if I accosted someone, I would apologise.

I think the analogies are getting way out of hand here. There is no need for a "what if" when you have a working example already. You ask how many is offensive, so I would in turn ask if one is offensive. You've already intimated that it's not. And that's what happened here. There is no slippery slope.


Didn't mean to pick on you cho, but I just needed to find a place to reply.

Take a few pictures of the sign from different angles. Send concerned anonymous letters once a week. She's probably doing other things against the rules too. Read up on the bylaws. Find out what else you can get her on. Get a restraining order, like a few people suggested. Find the cops who responded to the initial call and buy them a box of donuts and relay the information, and mention that she accosted you again, and that's how you were able to come by it. 


Finally, run against her. If you don't want to go all the way, don't step onto the battlefield.


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